6 (SURPRISING) Reasons to Do a 401k to IRA Rollover BEFORE You Retire…

by | Feb 14, 2023 | Rollover IRA | 20 comments

6 (SURPRISING) Reasons to Do a 401k to IRA Rollover BEFORE You Retire…




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Timestamps:
0:00 Going Beyond the “Normal” Reasons to Rollover Your 401k
0:33 The Often Discussed Reasons…
2:08 Surprising Reason #1
4:00 Surprising Reason #2
5:05 Surprising Reason #3
6:38 Surprising Reason #4
7:24 Surprising Reason #5
8:46 Surprising Reason #6
9:22 Fixing a Key Problem with a 401k Rollover

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20 Comments

  1. Alan Young

    Wait, so for reason 5, even if you designate your child as the beneficiary in the 401k, that gets disregarded and it is your spouse? That sounds deceiving.

  2. Bruce Stiles

    Rolling a 401(k) to the same custodian to reduce out-of-market time is brilliant!

    One curve ball about rolling over in chunks: in my experience, ~ 50% of 401(k) plans require 100% of funds to be withdrawn if any funds at all are withdrawn.

  3. J Mag

    What if you stopped working in December of a year and get paid a large payout in the next year. Can you contribute pre tax to your personal 401K IRA and then immediately do a roth conversion? What about a post tax contribution to an IRA?

  4. Corey Merrills

    As a young, career change advisor, I really appreciate how in depth your videos always are. I always learn something new.

  5. Just Us

    I learned a few things here but will continue to keep 70% in my investments in my 401k my only reason for doing that is protection for lawsuits. My investment strategy is the same in both accounts. So far I think it is worth all the rules and hassles of the 401k. I feel this should have been mentioned.

  6. Gi C

    Appreciate your great information on this video, if we do in plan 401k Roth conversion, will pro rata rule apply to the conversion?

  7. BlackWorldTraveler

    After my 401k crossed 1.5 million in 2019 I did an in service rollover with 70% of my Fidelity BrokerageLink account to a rollover pretax and Roth IRA.
    My 401k was self directed anyway and can do the same as IRA so that wasn't an issue.
    I just wanted to set things up for income payout ahead of time.
    Retired debt free at 49 in 2020. Retirement portfolio crossed two million.
    Thanks to Covid I got an early out package with paid healthcare and pension with other savings,taxable investments,passive income,and 20 year emergency fund so no financial issues.

  8. Lake DualSport

    Good video. I plan on converting to Ira after retiring for the flexibility, might keep some in the 401k but I never thought about the mandatory withholding differences. Good point.

  9. N Howe

    In reason 3, RMD complexity, you said that a couple can aggregate their IRAs and take the total RMD from a single IRA. Don't they need to do the aggregation of IRAs separately for each spouse? In other words, doesn't each spouse need to take his/her own RMD from his/her own IRAs? After all, IRAs are individual not joint accounts.

  10. Tom Z

    Suggestion for future subject, cover what IRMAA brackets will be or an estimate in 2024 (based on 2022 income) for us to plani end of year. income this year. As always great video

  11. Ed

    You missed a negative of rolling over. I currently have a large after tax IRA, a pretax IRA and a 401k. When I retire and move to a zero income tax state I will be doing Roth conversions that will be prorated based on the total size of all my IRAs. So if I don't roll over the 401k, I only pay taxes on about 75% of the conversion. If I do roll over, I end up paying on about 90%. Much higher tax bill and since I am only converting some of my funds an important one. Once I am done with my conversions then I will roll my 401k over for all the advantages you cite.

  12. B Miles

    I did my 401K to IRA rollover at Fidelity a number of years ago. I was worried that I would be out of the market for a day. I was assured that I would stay in the market during the rollover by my Fidelity advisor. Turns out my advisor was wrong, the market had a big up swing so I was out about $45k. I called my advisor immediately and complained. To my amazement Fidelity adjusted my account so I was made hole. What a standup company Fidelity is.

  13. Just Forfun9140

    1. Read 401K/403B protect from law suits and bankruptcy. Some states give same protection to IRAs, but may not be solid 401K/403B protection.
    2. Heard 403Bs are not subject to RMD?

  14. Just Forfun9140

    They make it easy to put money into 401K/403B, but make it difficult to take money out. If they allow only pro-rata then they need to pay for losses when money is taken out of stock funds while enough money is in stable value fund. This is unacceptable, they are forcing people to incur losses.

  15. Just Forfun9140

    TIAA 403B allows distribution from a specific fund or pro-rata, your choice. Vanguard 403B: Newport administers, their system can only handle pro-rata, forces loss of your money when money comes out of declined stock funds while having sufficient money in stable value fund.

  16. Matthew Morse

    Good video, but the key reason I will not roll over into an IRA is the loss of ERISA creditor protections. I feel that every discussion of a 401k to IRA rollover should highlight this as perhaps the biggest negative to the rollover which should be balanced with the positives.

  17. Mike D

    #7 – Roth 401Ks have RMDs

  18. Slim Dawg

    I think another estate related one is if you you are leaving it to a secure act EDB (like a disabled child). I saw a Kitces webinar that said the company 401k plan does not have to allow the lifetime scretch and can still dictate 10 year period.

  19. S Wright

    like.

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