Joseph Wang and Stephen Miran: The Bank Bailout Threatens to Devastate Markets

by | Apr 5, 2023 | Bank Failures | 27 comments

Joseph Wang and Stephen Miran: The Bank Bailout Threatens to Devastate Markets




On Sunday, March 12, the Federal Reserve, the U.S. Treasury, and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) announced emergency measures to support U.S. regional banks experiencing bank runs. Were these actions a “bailout” and have they already created unintended consequences? To Joseph Wang, former senior trader at the New York Federal Reserve, the answer to both of these questions is an unambiguous “yes.”

Joseph joins Stephen Miran, co-founder & portfolio manager at Amberwave Partners, alongside Jack Farley for an in-depth conversation on the banking intervention and its effect on moral hazard and monetary plumbing. Filmed on March 13, 2023, at 4pm ET.

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Joseph Wang’s latest piece, “Hidden To Market,”on FedGuy.com:

The joint statement from the Federal Reserve, the U.S. Treasury, and the FDIC:
Federal Reserve’s Bank Term Funding Program (BTFP):

Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction
00:47 The Bank “Bailout”
09:10 The Shocking Incompetence of Silicon Valley Bank
20:02 Will There Be More Bank Failures?
22:40 Public Ad
23:44 Moral Hazard in U.S. Banking Bailouts
27:55 Why Hasn’t Silicon Valley Bank Been Bought?
31:35 Emergency Relief From Fed, Treasury, and FDIC (Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation)
41:41 Consequences of Fed’s BTFP Program on Big For Duration
52:25 Does Huge Fall In Interest Rates Mean Fed’s Hiking Is Over?
01:01:13 February Inflation Data

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The Bank Bailout Will Destroy Markets

Joseph Wang and Stephen Miran have recently argued that the bank bailout will destroy markets.
Their argument centers around the idea that government intervention through bailouts can distort market incentives and lead to a misallocation of resources.

One of the main problems with bailouts is that they create a moral hazard – the expectation that if a bank takes on excessive risk and fails, the government will step in to bail them out. This encourages banks to take on more risk than they would otherwise and can ultimately lead to a larger financial crisis down the line.

Furthermore, bailouts can lead to the misallocation of resources. Instead of allowing the market to correct itself by letting failing banks fail, bailouts keep these inefficient institutions alive, creating a burden on the rest of the economy. The bailout money could have been used to invest in more productive and innovative industries, but instead is used to prop up failing banks.

The authors also argue that bailouts can lead to higher inflation as the government prints money to finance the bailout. This is because when there is an increase in the money supply, the value of money decreases, leading to higher prices for goods and services.

Lastly, bailouts can lead to a loss of confidence in the banking system. If the government is seen as propping up struggling banks, it can erode trust in the stability and integrity of the financial markets. This can make it more difficult for banks to attract deposits, leading to a weaker financial system overall.

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Overall, Joseph Wang and Stephen Miran provide a compelling argument for why the bank bailout will ultimately destroy markets. While the intentions behind a bailout may be good, the long-term consequences can be quite negative, including the potential for a larger financial crisis down the line. It is important for policymakers to carefully consider the costs and benefits of bailouts before implementing them in the future.

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27 Comments

  1. Ketu Wonder

    @SteveMiran – Thanks for dropping a Leo Tolstoy reference in the middle of a discussion about banking. You've made my day.

  2. diamondsprogler livingforever

    All very easy to keep your buddies happy when you have a printing machine with the public to pick up the tab!

  3. Brian Poncelet

    Great interview. Great guests.

  4. J B

    No, they literally just insured their own money via this work around. Knowing full well everyone else's money would never be saved. This wasn't some psychological move to prevent future failures. This was corrupt people saving 10 people's money. Whos' money was saved by this. We deserve a list.

  5. Margarette Kanealii

    The federal reserve is a joke. They have total control over the stock market, failure of the US economy and the devastating impact on the average working class citizens.

  6. The One

    All banks should be allowed to fall if they are an investment bank, they need to be held accountable for bad bets. Especially in the derivatives market

  7. Jane Mortz

    Has anyone been talking with the senators of the state of Iowa? I would love to know.

  8. Anonymous

    I feel sad that even though I am investing, I don't have the brain power to dig through how each company is doing, is this a good time to buy Gold, stocks or not. my reserve of $450k is still laying waste to inflation and I don't know what to do at this point.. I need solid data on market trajectory..

  9. Roman Carter

    bailout lets go ..

  10. Soprano-Aria

    It’s silicon (like the element) not silicone (the polymer).

  11.     DetectiveofMoneyPolitcs

    Economic investigator Frank G Melbourne Australia is still watching this very informative content cheers Frank

  12. jerry tritz

    But lacking somewhat in culture.

  13. jerry tritz

    I feel so Japanese.

  14. The cat

    Bailouts, QE in another guise.

  15. Hashim Rahman

    This crap is flat immoral, yet no one cares and it’s business as usual. The bankers are committing crimes against humanity.

  16. Tim James

    If rates reduce the bond values improve back toward par

  17. Mr Mikey

    Go woke, go broke.

  18. MoorCrypto

    These dudes are scammers

  19. Edmund Lively

    Fractional reserve banking turns every bank into a zombie bank and trust. what we need is full reserve banking and we need it quickly before the entire house of cards collapses

  20. dave calico

    Sure – but let’s not be naive – what’s actually on the books they don’t want exposed??

  21. Val Martin - Real True Education

    Put your money only where banks do not lend to green wind energy, solar energy, electric cars. They can never pay their way.

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  23. Sun Goku

    "You know"…!

  24. Emma Paul

    Another awesome video! ❤️❤️ Am investing my Time and money in crypto now this new price is a clear sign for new investors to come in ✅✅

  25. Farmer John

    Fed printing money led to inflation.
    Inflation led to the fed increasing rates.
    Higher rates led to lower bond prices
    Lower bond prices led to bank losses
    Bank losses led to bank collapse
    Bank collapse led to fed bail outs
    Fed bailouts led to printing money
    Back to step 1

    The only solution is to lower rates and for the government to increase taxes on everyone. Enough to slow the economy.

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