Steven Van Metre Predicts the Next Recession Will Surpass the 2008 Crisis

by | Oct 31, 2023 | Recession News | 20 comments

Steven Van Metre Predicts the Next Recession Will Surpass the 2008 Crisis




Interview recorded – 11th of September 2023

On this episode of the WTFinance podcast I had the pleasure of welcoming back @stevenvanmetre5087 – Money Manager & YouTuber.

During our conversation we spoke about whether US banks are insolvent, whether the FED can save the markets, if this crash will be worse than 2008, what we will see internationally and assets that will perform well during a recession. I hope you enjoy!

0:00 – Introduction
3:37 – Are US banks insolvent?
7:37 – Can the FED bailout banks?
11:24 – Treasury issuing bonds
14:12 – Reverse repo to help increase liquidity?
16:12 – FED to save the markets?
17:57 – Will inflation be higher for longer?
23:41 – Will this crash be worse than 2008?
27:05 – Will it be the end of our current debt cycle?
29:46 – The price to pay for borrowing
31:29 – Dollar strength during this period?
33:26 – What are we seeing internationally?
36:37 – Changing measurements of GDP measurement
38:42 – Assets that will perform well during this recession?
40:36 – One message to takeaway from our conversation?

Steven Van Metre, Certified Financial Planner™ Professional, (CA Insurance License #0D45202 & Investment Advisory Representative with Atlas Financial Advisors, Inc., a Registered Investment Advisory firm.) is the inventor and manager of Portfolio Shield™, the creator of Momentum Timer Pro™, and the President of Steven Van Metre Financial.

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The global economy is currently facing unprecedented challenges, and many financial experts believe that the next recession will be far worse than the 2008 financial crisis. One such expert is Steven Van Metre, a prominent financial analyst, and investor, who has been warning about the impending economic downturn.

Steven Van Metre is known for his accurate predictions, and he believes that the 2008 financial crisis was just a precursor to the upcoming collapse. His insights have gained significant attention from investors and economists alike, as he explains the reasons behind his dire predictions.

One of the key reasons Van Metre cites is the massive household and government debt levels, both in the United States and around the world. Since the 2008 crisis, debt levels have exponentially increased, making the global economy even more fragile. As interest rates have remained low, individuals and governments have taken advantage of cheap borrowing costs, resulting in a debt bubble that is ready to burst.

Furthermore, Van Metre highlights the role of central banks in exacerbating these issues. In response to the 2008 crisis, central banks around the world initiated unprecedented levels of quantitative easing, pumping trillions of dollars into the financial system. While this temporarily stabilized the economy, it led to significant distortions such as artificially inflated asset prices.

However, Van Metre warns that the consequences of these policies are yet to be fully realized. As central banks lowered interest rates to historic lows and flooded the markets with liquidity, they unintentionally created a moral hazard. Companies and individuals have become complacent, assuming that central banks will always be there to bail them out. This moral hazard has allowed risky behavior to prosper and has inflated asset prices beyond their true value.

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Another important factor that Van Metre highlights is the impact of demographics on the economy. The aging global population, particularly in developed countries, is a significant concern. As the baby boomer generation retires, there will be fewer people in the workforce to drive economic growth. This will put immense pressure on social security systems, healthcare, and pension funds, leading to economic instability.

Van Metre also draws attention to the fragility of the global financial system. The interconnectedness of global markets means that a crisis in one part of the world can quickly spread to others. The 2008 financial crisis demonstrated how swiftly a collapse in the mortgage market in the United States spread to economies worldwide. Van Metre argues that the current economic vulnerabilities are even worse, with emerging markets, European banks, and Chinese debt being major concerns.

In conclusion, Steven Van Metre’s analysis paints a grim picture of the global economy and warns that the next recession will be far worse than the 2008 financial crisis. The combination of record-high debt levels, central bank policies, demographic challenges, and global economic vulnerabilities all contribute to the impending collapse. While it may be challenging to predict the exact timing and magnitude of the next recession, it is crucial for individuals, businesses, and governments to heed these warnings and prepare accordingly.

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20 Comments

  1. WTFinance

    Will the recession be this bad?

  2. pibadar

    Why would you invite a clown to your podcast? Seriously this guy has the worst track record on yt

  3. Synister Crayon

    Doesn't take a scientist to know this

  4. The Real Bond King, Jeff Gundlach

    @1:18 "He's a money manager"…that lost 32% for his clients in his Portfolio Shield last year and received an SEC Compliance Request this year. Facts.

  5. The Real Bond King, Jeff Gundlach

    Steve, where's your crown?
    7/31/20 "Bonds are About to Go Through the Roof". TLT closed at 171

    8/7/20 "The Bond King is Crowned". TLT 170

    11/13/20 "Banks Buy Bonds While Retail Buys Stocks". TLT 158, SPX 3585!

    12/23/20 "Bonds Indicate a Massive Rally and Collapse in Yields is Coming!" TLT 156, TYX 16.97, TBT 16.66!

    After calling TLT a "bottoming pattern" and being a "macro" Bond Bull for 2+ years…

    10/2022 Capitulated; "removed it's position in TLT across all models for November." That was below 100/share!

    4/2023 "Added a position in TLT across all models for May." That was around 106/share.

    7/2023 Capitulated AGAIN: "Removed it's position in TLT across all models for July".

  6. paul wilson

    There is a lot of blame against the boomers. These were people who were born as a result if hindreds of thousands of oeopke eho dued defending freedom, both mlitary & civilians in Europe.
    They worked hard doing jobs tgat current younger people have refused to do. U foryunately the politicians since the 1960s gave been way too concerbed about the feelings, the sicial justice of peopke giving mire & more of taxpayers money and not doing what they were supposed to do, nanage theur economies in a professional way

  7. paul wilson

    I have a feeling I will live long enough to be at the graveyard shoveling dirt on top of the coffin that is the USD & Economy

  8. paul wilson

    Stevan has the ability to simplfy the economic fiasco that is the US, EU to the point that I belueve I might understand it. But I am still left with my mind spinning.
    Thank you to Steve

  9. Andre Westin

    Is it finally time to buy TLT?

  10. NeuroPsi Doc

    Why would you have Steve on your podcast? He recommended buying TLT at $171 to his clients and has lost more money than any strategist on YT.

  11. Ginger Kilkus

    I am really worried about the current crisis/interest rates, these are all the signs of yet another 2008 market crash 2.0 , so my question is do I still save in the United States dollar or is this a good time to buy gold?

  12. David Norton

    2008 was a warning. We did not heed the warning so we are in for the worst depression the world has ever seen. Wake up !!@

  13. airmaildeal

    Steven the Bond Clown

  14. Greg Michaelson

    Big government, big debt, big spending on the non productive, big deficits & high taxes – BIG PROBLEMS.
    Are they planning a collapse or are they just dumb?

  15. Spencer Barnes

    Dude why you interview this fool? He’s clueless he was pushing bonds all the way down. He’s always wrong about everything.

  16. John Shoultz

    You gotta know the tax payers are gonna eat the commercial real estate problem in the form of gov bank bail outs plus bank bail ins.

  17. Deborah Wilson

    The only thing you can do is make sure you're ready and plan accordingly because recessions are a natural part of the economic cycle. I began my career during a recession (2009). Aerial acrobatics on cruise ships was my first job out of college. I've developed my own business, am a vice president at a large corporation, own three rental homes, invest in stocks and businesses, and have seen a growth in my net worth of two million dollars over the past four years.

  18. SMA

    Deadset clown. Was calling for a crash in the second half of 2020 and referred to himself as the bond king – talking up TLT which has dropped 40%+ from then. Steve needs to find a new career. Anyone taking his advice is getting seriously hurt.

  19. Edward Stanton

    Not sure if it's possible to have underperformed SVM's calls over the past three years.

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