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Heated seats don’t make sense?
That’s just crazy talk!
I’m skeptical about this. Seatbelts only contact a small area of the body and would be exposed to the air. Would have to experience it first, but I just suspect that it wouldn’t warm you up as thoroughly as heated seats.
Speaking as someone who lives in the cold (Canada), heated seat belt seems laughably ridiculous to me. A heated seat is much more useful, and no doubt it could be made to be more efficient. Reason why I do not believe in this AT ALL is that half off the heat belt is exposed whereas heated seat is entirely covered, let alone the surface area involved. Finally, your body acts as insulation to the heat provided where the heat belt is constantly fighting through the insulation of your coat and is uninsulated on the other side. Sorry, but this really seems insane to me.
Heated steering wheels is the way to go for cold climate
Heated belts: terrible idea. You can see in the thermograph that there are several inches of heated belt that don't even touch the body… if it's cold and you're getting in your car with an insulated jacket, the belt will be heating the air, and providng your body little thermic rise. Heated seats make much more sense… the belt only contacts something like 5% of your body anyway.
You live in Australia. You probably need cooled seats rather than heated seats!
Perhaps as an alternative on some mildly cool days, but definitively not an alternative to heated seats! When it is properly cold, one tends to be dressed in much more than a thin shirt or blouse, and through a proper coat the effect would be small – at least in true Viking climate! 😉
Interesting idea!
I would much rather have ventilated seats than heated seats. This would reduce the amount of air conditioning used in the car.
You've never driven in extreme cold like below 0 fahrenheit. Heat rises and a warm butt and back is a nice treat. With a coat on the seat belt would not do much. Come to a real cold climate in the winter my friend.
Heated seatbelts? Yikes. Take caution…. consistently exposing body parts to such close proximity EMF's could be a recipe for cancer down the road.
Or not. Your life, your decision after all. But personally, I don't find heated seats useful anyway (and yes, I do live where it gets cold). And I'd rather be safe than sorry… er, warm?
Yes. It has a psychological benefit too, because a 'warm hug' makes you feel warmer, as well as actually warming you. Many of us wear a scarf for the same kind of effect. I always carry a scarf in the car for Winter driving, and have done gor decades. It's as important as gloves and a woolly hat.
Electric Viking I invite you to visit Canada(in particular Manitoba or Saskatchewan) between Dec 1 & March 1 & see if heated seats are still an unnecessary option…
You still can't have frost and fog building on the windscreen. Might as well heat the cabin if you have to heat the glass.
Just buy a cheap electric throw blanket to keep in the car. They make ones with a 12v plug and also ones that are battery operated. They make ones with sleeves for your arms as well. These will do a better job at keeping you warm than this seat-belt idea.
Think about it. You wear normal pants in the winter so heated seats work well. Your weight presses you tightly against the seat. The seatbelt goes over your insulated coat, not as effective. I do also like the heated searing wheel in my Model Y, which was a surprise. Warm hands greatly warm the body.
It's stupip & bad for safety, because you might want to have heat while resting or sleeping in the car while parked etc.
Melting my safety restraint doesn't sound great to me.
Living in colder climates – heated seats and steering wheel is a must.
I guess I’ll be that guy umm it’s less safe if you need to use seatbelt cutters
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Oh that is genius, such a great idea.
if your coat is well insulated the heat from the seat belt will not be that effective though. if you are wearing a light sweater, I can see that it can be more convenient.
a heated coat the plugs in with a magnetic coupler would be better. if you're wearing a jacket in the winter you wont get much heat from the seatbelt because the heat will raise into the cabin vs the heated seat has nowhere to go but into your backside.
If you live in an area where temperatures get near freezing, heated seats are almost a must-have for non-fabric seats. A heat belt only touches you in a few places, heated seats warm you back and legs. I will have to test a heated seatbelt out to be 100% certain, but color me skeptical.
If you have leater seats you will want heated seats in a cold climate…unless you put a seat cover on it.
Your arguments for the heated seatbelt make even more sense for a heated seat. And what do you mean you have nothing in front of you — the people shown in the video are all wearing coats. Most people wear coats in the car in winter, but very few people wear insulated pants. A heated seat puts the heating element between your skin and an insulator (butt and seat) instead of between an insulator and the cabin (coat and open air). But all that being said, VERY few people are going to turn off the cabin heat and use only heated seats, belts, or steering wheels. Most people use them to warm up faster, not use less energy.
Doesn't making any sense to me. Mean radiant temperature is what affects comfort, so spreading the heat out improves comfort over concentrating it.
Heated seats are spectacular. They make a ton of sense. Heated seat belts would be great too. Now figure out how to de-condensate a windshield without blowing hot air at it. It's cold, my breath is warm, so I have to run the heater a bit.
I agree! In Sweden when it's cold you have isolating cloths. When you get into the car some people will remove their big puffy jacket if driving far. But you don't remove your thermal underlayer. And if you don't remove your jacket you still should put your seat belt on under your jacket. You could even half close your jacket on top of it.
These are addative. Heated seats plus heated stearing wheels plus heated seat belts plus heated windows plus heated cabins plus dehumidified cabins. Eventually regulators will require them all in every car. More comfort = happy people. Screw range, you remote start your ice car to warm it up befoe you get in it & do the same in EVs. Don't pretend you don't, nearly all of us are sluts for more comfort. Of course you do.
2:56 Toyota didn’t even want to make the bz4x so no wonder they don’t care about how it performs
As an engineer…my compromise. Heat pump system, perhaps 48 v electric motor driven, even for ICE. Reintroduce crotch cooler vents. Now the seat can be heated or cooled in advance by pressing a button on your smartphone.
What happens when someone tries to rescue driver by cutting seatbelt
don't make much sence, its heating on the jacket which is well insulated.
prefer my ass to be warm over my stomach and chest, unless I'm sitting on the seat belt, I'll take the hit and stay toasty warm.
The heated seat is a great idea and it doesn't have to stay on once the car is warmed up but until then, it is fricking awesome.
Tesla 3's heated seats are wonderful and comfortable.
Love them.
Don't need heated seats in Aussie Land!
I have heated seats in my Peugeot, guess how many times I have used them in the last year lol, I am in Qld and I park my car in my enclosed garage that is a part of my Brick home, it never gets cold enough in there to need a heater, maybe if I parked it outside in Winter and wasn't wearing any pants or maybe a mini skirt, it would be nice.
In Canada or Europe and North America, I can see the benefit, in Africa or most Tropical to sub Tropical, it's as useful as a heater inside the house 🙂
Anyone that lives is truly cold weather will tell you this is a dumb idea. When you jump into a car at 10F/-12C, the large surface area of the ice cold seat is sucking the heat out of your body. You don't even notice the cold seat belt. The amount of contact it makes with your body is minimal. If you heat the belt instead of the seat, you'll have the seat sucking heat out of you faster than the belt can put it in.
EVs are all going to need heat pumps to compete, making use of resistive heating pointless as well.
Just illustrates the constant extra cost, complexity etc that comes with EV's. Being warm in your car is a basic for most people Mandate heat pumps, seats and steering wheels in all EV's would go a long way to improve matters. Mass volume use would reduce costs.
Heated seats arenot much use in Australia.
I understand the desire to improve climate control efficiency. But I'm not convinced that the localized heat of a thin belt with minimal thermal mass is more effective than a pad that can warm both the human and the thermal mass of the seat. Further, heat rises. I'd rather heat the seat and my body gently and directly than to heat a thin band of woven material across an approximately one square foot total contact patch.