Why You Should NOT Rollover Your 401k to an IRA (It's The Finney Show!)

by | Nov 8, 2022 | SEP IRA | 29 comments

Why You Should NOT Rollover Your 401k to an IRA (It's The Finney Show!)




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29 Comments

  1. Mark Perry

    Hi Josh – thanks for all of your videos. I watch everyday. I have a question: I have a fund called William Blair Small-Mid Cap Growth CIT and it has an expense ratio of .85%. Am I a fool to keep paying this high of an expense ratio? I have been thinking about this for a long time and cannot get myself to change it. I have $400,000 in it. Please let me know your thoughts and keep up the great work!

  2. Jack Thoma

    I disagree. NEVER BORROW FROM A 401K. IF YOU PLAN YOUR FINANCES TO DO THIS DO NOT CONTRIBUTE TO A 401K!!!!

  3. Tim

    I think few people know about the ability to access 401k at 55.

  4. James Brown

    The answer is, it depends. Not all 401k plans are equal. I have had bad ones and good ones. If it is a good one, self managed allowed and low fees, roll it over to this. If it doesn't allow you to buy individual stocks and etfs, then roll it over to an IRA.

  5. Joe the Computerguy

    I guess I was always fortunate enough to have after tax cash on hand that I never considered borrowing against a 401k. When I left any job I always went to an IRA. It turned out the right decision for me.

  6. AV

    Another benefit for higher wage earners, it is keeps the backdoor Roth path free from the pro rata rule

  7. Scoob Edoo

    Wellington Admiral VWENX is down to 0.16% now, Josh. Way down from where it used to be.

  8. M RD

    I rolled an old 401k into an IRA and bought all Tesla stock. It was one of the smartest things I’ve ever done.

  9. Patrick Lazzari

    Rolling it to an IRA has the advantage of access to any fund/equity as opposed to what is available in the company’s plan.

  10. ialexei

    On top of the expense ratio for the individual mutual funds, don't the 401k management companies charge an additional management fee ?

  11. Philip Orton

    You can draw at 54 but have turning 55 that year.

  12. Bob B

    Is Finney coming or going?

  13. Zoom Zoom

    59+, what's the benefit of IRA over 401k (in general)? I have flexibility in my 401k through a brokerage account

  14. Carlos Davila

    My job 401k has a stable value fund that gives around 2% return, very stable, has not been negative in the past 20 years, I cant find that in any other funds, bonds are getting hammered. Plan to retire at 55, 40% into stable value, 60% S&P, that will get me until 70 and claim SS.

  15. Pallas

    Finny is quite a dog boy he is a lucky dog and what a work out he is getting. Pablo must be thinking what is he doing running back and fourth. Lol.

  16. 1timby

    My wife's 401k funds are horible. Many folks are always transferring their funds into other IRAs.

  17. Dan Klein

    Hey Josh,

    My 401K has Insane fees of an average of 1.00 to 1.59 percent versus of Vanguard .004 percent.

  18. John B

    I disagree, but thats ok. I would roll to a IRA as you have more options. Thats what i have been doing the past several yrs, life of a govt contractor. once i leave a contract i roll that 401k into my IRA (doing a roth ladder as well). once i am with my last company a few months before retiring i do a reverse rollover back into that 401k and rule 55 all day long. just have to make sure your plan allows for it. But thats me, still a good video Josh!

  19. TJ Larson

    At least you'll have one worn out puppy tonight

  20. Mark Flippin

    Ok what about if your 62. I still have 100 K in my 401k . Should I leave it or roll to a Roth or something? Give me a clue

  21. Larry Carpenter

    If you retire…. Have two 401k funds… Your money and your smaller match fund from your employer…. Can you roll one into an IRA for starting Roth conversion or do you have to roll both / the entire 401k thanks Larry.

  22. Marc Maday

    I’m 54 and was considering rolling an IRA into my company’s 401 K at Mass Mutual. After calling Mass Mutual, they informed me that my Company doesn’t participate in rule 72 T if I retire or resign at age 55? Any thoughts?

  23. cutehumor

    I wonder if I should take a 401k loan before I retire at 55. My 401k plan says when I terminate my job, I can continue to make loan payments. Most I could take out is 50k with a 59 month loan. This will help to avoid selling stocks at a loss in a down market when I retire at 55. hmmm

  24. Thomas P

    Create an LLC and a corresponding self directed or solo 401K and then roll it into there. Best of both worlds. You get the ability to invest in any index fund or ETF you like, as well as individual stocks, very low fees and all the benefits of an employer 401K.

  25. Tom Novak

    I got distracted by the dog racing back and forth and so maybe this was already mentioned but to me the most important reason to keep the funds in a 401k is it allows you to do a backdoor Roth without having to worry about the prorata rule which would apply if you have funds in a traditional IRA. I don't hear this mentioned much by financial planners (probably because most want you to rollover your funds to an IRA so they can manage it; Josh is clearly an exception).

  26. Pedro Garces

    Great videos! Question, what about rolling over to an IRA and doing Roth conversions? It gives you access to the funds you convert to Roth five years from the conversion date regardless of age.

  27. Rob W

    My daughters Rottweiler does the same thing for hours

  28. Jennifer Macaluso

    Some companies if you leave at 55 you have access to your 401k money without penalty. So is might be a good idea to keep sone there if that is the case so you can access to cash if you need it

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