Pro-Rata Rule for IRA Distributions and Roth IRA Conversions – What Is It?

by | Oct 17, 2022 | SEP IRA | 8 comments




In this video, Alexander Efros, MBA, EA, CPA, CFP® from Efros Financial discusses the pro-rata rule for IRA accounts which may be applicable to determine the taxable amount of an IRA distribution or Roth IRA conversion.

IMPORTANT: The information presented in this video is not tax advice, tax analysis, or legal advice, and it should not be construed as either of these. Consult with a qualified tax and/or legal adviser prior to acting on any of the information presented in this video.

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8 Comments

  1. Hana Bunny

    Very good information and demonstration on the pro rata calculation.

  2. K K

    Does the pro-rata rule apply to mega backdoor Roth conversion also? if yes, is there any method you could recommend to the high incomers who want to contribute to Roth IRA but already have a Rollover IRA without invoking pro-rata rule .

  3. Susan Behme

    The article is great! Thanks for mentioning it.
    The rollover of existing IRA balances into a 401k is the best trick on the planet to eliminate the pro rata rule. I am in awe to learn this is allowed. THANK YOU.

  4. Straitjacket Studios

    Why would someone open a POST TAX account as a Traditional IRA vs just opening a ROTH IRA (which is also post tax)? Would opening a $6k ROTH IRA have reduced this complexity?

  5. John Smith

    Thank you so much for your clear explanation! I wonder if rollover IRA and 401K are considered traditional IRA applied by perrotta rule?

  6. Mims

    Thanks for the live spreadsheet look. Very helpful. Best explanation I’ve seen on the pro rata rule. I have a question. Is my rollover ira considered a traditional ira and needs to be included in the pro rata calculation?

  7. Journey to Retirement

    does the pro-rata rule apply year end only. If say I have tIRA now with $10k, I contribute $6K post tax in tIRA (seperate tIRA) than convert that entire account to a Roth IRA. Before december 2021, I plan to roll whatever tIRA I have to a employer 401k. Will it apply?

  8. Krish Ravindran

    what happens, in your example, if all of the amount (both pre-tax and after-tax) is converted to ROTH IRA. What is the taxable portion?

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